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DEP how many punches should Randy have taken before he took it to the ground? How many could he have taken? None.

He was in the ring with a man who has the potential to kill him with a punch, I think he did the right thing, the smart thing and the ... yes disappointing thing.

I too would have liked to see a little more of a beating laid on Toney but I really don't think Randy could have taken ANY hits to the head. Maybe he could have let him up a couple of times but too much was at stake including Randy's life.

I can think of no circumstances where I would call Randy Couture a pussy.
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DEP how many punches should Randy have taken before he took it to the ground?

Well obviously the number was 0 and he proved that without even trying to make it look good.
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Agree ... I would have liked to see Toney bleed more.
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Agree... Couture's tampon was bloodier than Toney.
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Soooooo......
What's the point here?
Couture should have let Toney punch him in the face just to prove.......what exactly?
That he can take a punch?

What's the point in that?


Sorry boxing fans (DEP and Chrom, I'm talking to you ladies!! LOL!!!)
but the most important thing that happened in that fight was this;

Boxers have no answer in a realistic fight. Never had, never will have.
Sorry, but that's the way it is. Do you have anything to prove otherwise?


Yeah, didn't think so....



I appreciate the sweet science, but only for what it is;
An isolated aspect of realism that is only relavent in it's own vacuum of rules and regulations....... like gymnatsics.
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Heh .... but not real gymnastics ... more like that gymnastics where they run around with streamers on sticks and roll on the floor with balls.... heh
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Soooooo......
What's the point here?
Couture should have let Toney punch him in the face just to prove.......what exactly?
That he can take a punch?

What's the point in that?


Sorry boxing fans (DEP and Chrom, I'm talking to you ladies!! LOL!!!)
but the most important thing that happened in that fight was this;

Boxers have no answer in a realistic fight. Never had, never will have.
Sorry, but that's the way it is. Do you have anything to prove otherwise?


Yeah, didn't think so....



I appreciate the sweet science, but only for what it is;
An isolated aspect of realism that is only relavent in it's own vacuum of rules and regulations....... like gymnatsics.

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Boxing is teh gay

Haha, but in all seriousness.

Randy would be considered smart to take down a far superior mma striker. If he didn't he would be ridiculed for coming in with a poor game plan. However, if he fights a boxer and does the same he is gay. Gotcha.

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Yep!!!!!!!!

http://www.mmatko.com/randy-couture-vs-james-toney-fight-video-gifs-ufc-118/
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Hahaha, look at the clock. 15 seconds in and he DIVES. UFC legend. Nice.
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So heres the question guys: What did Randy prove by winning that fight in that fashion?


IMO He proved nothing that the entire world already didn't know, James Toney isn't a wrestler.... Thats no victory to write home to Mom about. You took a guy who was 0-0 to the mat in 15 seconds.... wheres the sport in that.....
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I watch the .gif and I wonder why he's so happy and why he's celebrating. Ok he won, I get it, but that's the kind of victory that ranks with the victory you get when you fight your front lawn with a pull start Toro with a bent wheel. If Toney KO'd him in 15 seconds I'd probably think: "Well.... I guess."
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What it proves is that Randy- with his much broader arsenal of skills- is a vastly superior fighter to James Toney.

I understand that you guys wanted to see Couture try and box with Toney, but he didn't have to, because he has a lot more options than Toney does in a fight. That would be like me having a hornet's nest in my back yard, and instead of using the can of Raid I bought yesterday to kill them, I decide to go out there with a slingshot and shoot em out of the air one by one.

James Toney got exactly what he deserved. He was arrogant enough to think he could walk in there and fuck up anybody and everybody because of his boxing background, and Randy embarrassed him and made him look stupid.
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Well call it what you will, Toney had the balls to walk into Couture's world and conduct some business. He did indeed look pretty stupid, I will admit. He was way too fat and he actually tipped over lol. Therefore, it seems that the only way for Toney to redeem himself is to square off with Couture in a boxing ring.

I won't hold my breath.
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HA, that would be a site....
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Right, but that's exactly my point. Randy would get embarrassed if he were to try and box.
But then again....Randy wasn't the one shooting off at the mouth about how much boxer ass he would kick if given the chance and saying boxers are pussies and not "real men" etc.......


On top of that, let's say Randy did box James Toney. What if Toney just walked out there and leveled Randy in 15 seconds. Would it make sense for me to start complaining that Toney didn't spend more time establishing his jab, putting Randy against the ropes, and tying up with him?
No, that would be stupid. And you would probably tell me that Toney did exactly what he was supposed to do by using his punching power to starch Randy and prove that he was superior.

This sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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Couture's rancid, gaping vagina will ensure that we never have to have that conversation.
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Heh ... I dont know if Toney had the "balls" to walk into Randy's world... more like all the beatings in the head he has taken have brought him up a few fries short of a Happy Meal!

Toney calling out Randy was like that Gopher calling out Brock in the "I'm Baaaack" video.

Moral of the story is ... if you cant back your shit talking up ... don't talk shit!
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Couture's rancid, gaping vagina will ensure that we never have to have that conversation.

Now you're just being mean!!!!
Crying or Very sad


LOL!
But honestly, if Couture got clobbered in a boxing match against Toney, you would be saying the same shit about Couture that the rest of us are saying about Toney, and you know it.

Like Krieger just said;
If Toney can't back up his shit-talk, he should keep his mouth shut.
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Now you're just being mean!!!!
Crying or Very sad


LOL!
But honestly, if Couture got clobbered in a boxing match against Toney, you would be saying the same shit about Couture that the rest of us are saying about Toney, and you know it.

I honestly don't think I would, I'm not the "see I told you so" type. Ok, so Toney KO'd fat old man Couture in a boxing match, just like he was supposed to. Who gives a shit? In reality, Couture subbed fat old man James Toney in an MMA fight. In other news, the sun came up.

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Like Krieger just said;
If Toney can't back up his shit-talk, he should keep his mouth shut.

That's all hindsight, don't misrepresent what happened. Toney ran his mouth, then he actually went in there to back it up. He lost, and he gave Handy props in the post fight interview. He's not running his mouth from 3 states away and then turning down offers to fight, leave that to Mayweather.
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