UFC 148 Discussion

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IDK about that decision over Tibau...

all glison did was stop the takedown

Hair pulling the other week, now pants pulling and greasing, questionable knee... bahhhh Im going to bed!

Dammnit Chael and hs spinning backfist he pulled out of his ass and Anderson's knee.

Gotta get this out. Grabbing the shorts changed the outcome last night for sure! Had Anderson not grabbed them, Silva would have been put on his back. We all know the questionable knee that pretty much ended the fight would never have been thrown if Chael had Silva on his back... Plus the guy attempted to cheat the first 20 seconds he was in the cage by greasing... these aren't the actions of a so called "Humble & Great Champion" These are the actions of a cheater. I think everyone is just letting it slide since it was Silva to Sonnen... "Oh, he had i t coming" type mentality. But, had it been the other way around we would be hearing a shit ton of buzz from the pro-Silva community about how Cheal is a cheating, roid abusing felon, who doesn't deserve to fight Silva. :/

I used to like Anderson ,but I haven't for awhile he's good sure ,but just kind of a dick. I never really saw Sonnen as a dick, just a guy who decided to go pro wrestling to garner more attention.

Man Ortiz was shot ,but at the end Griffin didn't look much better.

Le-Cote had some good back and forth action. I like Le alot ,but he just isn't progressing enough you know.

Demian Maia did pretty good with that trip and ended up hurting Kim.

Snake Five wrote:

I used to like Anderson ,but I haven't for awhile he's good sure ,but just kind of a dick.

Exactly how I feel. Yeah the dude is an amazing striker, but he is far from the the guy people make him out to be. Plus he has no answer for the take down... aside from short pulling... I can't get behind that, being a former wrestler.

ok...i didnt see any holding of the shorts and the knee was perfectly legal.....when he first threw it i was worried...after showing the replay there is no way the knee was in the face, even chael said it was a good knee.....and the "greese" was cleaned off by the ref.......what put sonnen down was when anderson ducked one of sonnens swings causing sonnen to stumble......

If you didn't see the short holding, you need to rewatch it. I thought it was pretty obvious.

Thought Philippou/Fukuda was a good fight. However, after the first, I think Philappou was giving way too much respect for Fukuda's takedowns. Thought he could have been more aggressive and finished the fight. Shit, he was more aggressive in the 3rd round when he was half blind and by all rights could have just played it safe to a point victory.

I had no problem with Tibau "supposedly" getting screwed by the judges. Seriously, I would have scored every round a 10-10. I don't think any fighter did anything so spectacular in any round to deserve a definitive victory. Seriously, do fighters get points for stuffing takedowns now? If so then, Tibau wins easily. As far as I know, you don't get points for stuffing a takedown. Thought Nurmogonjllksdfjv pressed the action the entire 3 rounds. Tibau was just looking to counter. Tibau is a strange fighter. He looks kind of like a T-Rex out there. All muscle bound and stiff like a fire plug.

Guillard did not look nearly as firey and ripped as he usually does? New diet or a tough cut, maybe? Fairly entertaining fight. I liked how Camoes was not scared in the least over Guillard's striking. Very interested in both their next fights.

Liked how Mendes finally exposed McKenzie for the one trick pony he is. It's either catch a guy in a guillotine or get KTFO.

Le/Cote was an entertaining fight, but both fighters look as if they are over the hill veterans that should have hung it up years ago. I don't see either one of these guys ever being anything more than a C-Level fighter to feed up and comers to see if they have UFC potential.

Forrest.... Puke. What a terrible fight. Ortiz has been washed up forever and Forrest still can't finish a fight. I hope they both retire.

I really don't like Anderson Silva. However, I don't get all the controversy over the fight. The knee was clean and the short grabbing was deserving of the warning Silva got. If you are a professional fighter, you really can't cry over a guy pulling your shorts. It's instinctual and is something that happens in a fight... just like an unintentional head but, eye poke or low body kick. The real reason Sonnen lost was his own stumble after crazy back fist. Not sure what's next for Sonnen. I think he's hilarious, but a super boring fighter. Not sure who I'd want to see him fight next. There are only two guys I want to see Silva fight yet in the UFC. Bisping and a rematch with Vitor.

Awesome analysis. I don't think Tibau got screwed per say, but as you said no one did anything. Alot of digging and pressing up to the cage... I suppose Khabib wins it on Cage Control.

chrom...yeah, im not saying yeah or nay to the short holding....just didnt see it, as far as the rest of the fight, it was all good....the knee was clean to the chest. The only thing that bothered me in the silva fight was the stoppage. I feel like it was a good stoppage but could have let it go a few longer to see if sonnen was going to get back up or mount any kind of defense, it didnt seem like he was rocked or unconscious.....granted he was sort of in the fetal position covering up...also besides the fact, just before sonnen went down, silva was starting to man handle him almost franklinesque......and also thought Anderson was very classy post fight given all that sonnen had said about silvas country, family and friends...

tito surprised the shit out of me.....he didnt cry! and forrest is a douch...hes had some funny moments and may be better suited as an author but i thought he clearly won the fight and had no reason to just walk out of the octagon...unless and this is a big maybe, he was trying to give tito the spotlight for retirement speech and all that kind of stuff

interested to see maia in the ww div

i like cung le and his style but do believe he needs to focus on cardio if hes going to fight again!

glison did nothing to win the fight...as mentioned above, he stopped the take down, THATS IT! he never had cage control, he didnt throw that much to do any damage and he never pressed the action

Overall I was somewhat disappointed with the event. As everyone has said, Forrest/Tito was lame...and Forrest' antics aren't funny anymore, they're disrespectful and idiotic. I suppose he could get away with that stuff at first when he was making a few waves in the UFC...but now that he has nothing to offer anymore it's just childish.

Le/Cote...again, I guess I'll just repeat that they're both beyond their time...meh at best.

The only way I could've been happier about the main event is if Chael was knocked out cold. I guess I noticed the short pulling, but didn't put any weight to it, I don't think for a second that was the reason Anderson won that fight. The better fighter won. There was a long time where I was CERTAIN that Chael was gonna walk through Anderson, but his last fight against Bisping proved to me that if a striker of any caliber goes against him he's gonna fold. The only reason he rolled through Stann is because Stann is a striker with zero ground game. He went against one of the best strikers in the world and got TKO'd...no incident of short grabbing made this happen IMO.

OK seriously;
Can we put this BS to rest now with Sonnen and Silva?

Yeah, Sonnen fought a good fight in chapter 1 of this book, but he lost.
Then, we heard all the talk about how Sonnen wa gonna dominate the rematch and take his rightful place as champion over Silva. Then he lost even worse.

The boo-hoo over this insignificant grab of the shorts is desperation at best.

Silva lost the first round, admittedly. But Sonnen lost the second decidedly; as in got finished....again. Got stopped.......again.

Let's stop with the excuses already.

I agree Trigger...it should be put to rest.

Sure, Sonnen lost... but Silva did very little in that fight but capitalize on a sloppy spinning shit and get beat up on the ground. He was still exposed as the guy with shit for takedown defense and it had zero to do with broken ribs. But yeah... he's the greatest.

This argument will obviously go nowhere regardless of who's side you're on. If Sonnen was such a wizard on the ground he would've stopped Anderson once he got it there. He won the first round no question, but I'd still say Anderson was somewhat controlling the ground game...Chael got him down sure, but didn't do much with it. And the whole thing about Anderson ONLY won because he ducked a sloppy spinning back fist...well, Chael ONLY got a takedown because Anderson came out swinging when the bell rang and wasn't focused on TDD.

if were going to talk tdd lets look at round 2 where silva stuffed 2 or 3 attempts by chael before chael swung blindly and wildly and fell over......was anderson supposed to help him up like he did when he fought forrest? or was he supposed to finish the fight like he did?


anderson won fair and square and is clearly the better fighter......

I think we are missing the biggest point about this fight and i am surprised no one else has said anything about it. When those two guys were fighting you can tell in there eyes they both thought the same thing........"oh man i hope i dont have to fight Bisping next!!!"





Just saying

hahahahahaha....Gecko that's awesome.....

Short pulling bugs the hell out of me, as does fence holding.

LOL
I will never be able to understand the mind of an Anderson Silva hater.

No matter what happens......no matter who he beats....... no matter how many questions he answers....... no matter what he does to prove his critics wrong time and time again, they still find some little hidden flaw or exception to hold onto like it's a fucking teddy bear to help them sleep at night.

Silva has done everything to prove he deserves all the praise he receives from his supporters.
Let's start from his first UFC appearance:

-He was underestimated by UFC fans, and proceeded to light Chris Leben up like a Christmas Tree.
-The decision to offer him a title shot was scoffed at, and he went on to humiliate longtime champion Rich Frankilin.
-His ground game was supposedly exposed against Travis Lutter. He won by submission.
-Wrestling was believed to be his weakness. He beat Dan Henderson by submission.
-With his title (and heart as a champion) in question, he submitted Chael Sonnen after being outscored for 4 and a half rounds.
-He KO'd one of the best pure strikers in MMA with an unheard of and innovative maneuver.
-He again defeated the man that his detractors said was his doom; this time in decisive fashion inside of 2 rounds by TKO.

And still,
He grabbed.......his shorts.
That's what we're gonna focus on.

and lets not forget.....some part of anderson touched chaels face when his knee hit square in the chest



im going to stop even saying he kneed him at all and start calling it aggressive tea bagging!