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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:17 pm | |
| OK, so things have been pretty slow around here lately, so trying to think of something to stir the pot. Looking for about 5 guys who would like to participate in a fantasy league to run 1 full year. High Level Details: 1. Each person drafts a team of ~10 fighters. 2. Will track fighters using a point system and their records against other teams in the league over the course of a year. 3. Standings updated by me after every applicable fight card.
This would require no time other than the initial draft. I will take care of all the standings etc...
Couple thoughts: 1. Free to sign up. Maybe a mod could offer some hefty standard cash to 1st and 2nd place. Or maybe I can come up with some stupid donated prize or something. 2. I know we are all too busy to participate in a LIVE draft. I would suggest everyone would send me a proxy list, and I can draft on your behalf.
Many more specific details (I've done this before), but at this time please respond in this thread if you would be interested and if you would have time to provide me a proxy list of fighters by Friday (So I can have time to set everyone's teams in time for this weekend's fights).
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:46 pm | |
| I think this is an awesome idea, and cheers to you for taking the time to hash this out.
I'm in. | |
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Chrom Hall of Famer
Posts : 5966 Standard Cash : 23046 Reputation : 257 Join date : 2011-07-06 Age : 43 Location : Minnesota
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:58 pm | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:06 pm | |
| Great, this makes 3 of us so far. Hope we can get a few more. Here are the extended (anal) rules in case you guys are looking for some shitter reading material.
Draft Rules: 1. Each team will draft a team of 10 fighters (subject to change based on number of participants). 2. You must have at least one fighter from each of the top 5 weight classes, and at least 2 fighters from the 145 or lower weight classes (as of today). Your remaining draft picks can be in any weight class. 3. Draft order will be in the order I receive your Proxy Lists (I will draft 3rd). 4. This will be a snake draft, meaning the person who picks last in the first round will pick first in the second round (and so on). 5. When drafting, I will pick the highest fighter still available on your list, unless it comes down to you still needing to fill a gap in a weight class. 6. When filling out your proxy list, I suggest listing at least 50 fighters. If your list is too short and you have nobody left on your list, I will default to the next highest ranked athlete available from the sites "top 10 rankings" (starting with HW). You also have the option to list fighters you definitely do not want along with your proxy list in case your list is too short.
How do I win? Two Ways. A prize will be given to the winner of each category (Say 5000 standard cash... but will let a mod decide).
1. League Standings a. Your winning percentage against the rest of the league. (only fights against other league fighters are counted for this category) b. Ties broken in the following order: Head-to-Head winning percentage, 2) Most Matches, 3) Most Finishes, Most Points.
2. Most Points a. Each team will be ranked by total points based on the following scoring. b. Win = 2 Points c. Loss = -1 Point d. Draw/No Contest = 0 Points e. A Finish (TKO/Sub) = 1 bonus point f. A win against another fighter in the league = 1 bonus point g. Tie Breakers in the following order: 1) Points in Head-to-Head Matches, 2) Most Wins, 3) Highest League winning percentage.
Why two ways to win? Since this over the course of a year, there is a chance a member gets stuck with a team with several inactive fighters due to suspensions, retirement, injury, etc... Winning Percentage is blind to number of fights, so will still give guys a chance to win even with low activity.
Can I cut a guy who sucks? Yes. Each team is allowed 2 trades (first come first serve by private message) they can use at any time during the season. Season will end exactly 1 year from this Saturday or a one week lapse without a fight from team member (whatever comes second). You may trade with a free agent fighter (any fighter not currently on a team), or with another team member. You will be penalized 1 point for letting a fighter go (so make it worth it).
Are there some strategies to drafting? 1. I would stick with guys you think will get a lot of activity, as you will have more chances to score points. You may be treading on thin ice to draft a guy who may retire soon. 2. There IS an incentive to draft guys who finish fights more often, however inactivity will hurt you more than a guy who doesn't finish fights. 3. Likely better off to draft guys who will be fighting other guys in our league. Although, any fighter with a Sherdog profile is eligible to be drafted, if you pick some guy in some remote fight league you likely will not get any bonus points for beating a guy on someone else's team.
What happens when fight outcomes are overruled? Sherdog fight statistics within 24 hours of the fight will hold. (ie.. if a fight gets ruled a NC when a fighters drug test results come back a week later, points will not be adjusted). 24 hours grace will be given in the event of erroneous score cards, etc..
What happens if one of my fighters changes weight classes during the season. 1. It doesn't matter. You only need to have the specified number of athletes in each weight class for drafting purposes. 2. The only caveat is that you may not empty a required weight class by cutting a fighter, unless you plan on replacing him accordingly.
I think I covered everything. If you can think of any nuances before you submit your proxy list, please let me know beforehand. Afterwards, I will have to make the final decision. REMEMBER... THIS IS JUST FOR FUN. Nobody is going to lose their life savings over this.
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Krieger Title Holder
Posts : 2176 Standard Cash : 5927 Reputation : 194 Join date : 2011-08-12 Location : Calgary
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:50 pm | |
| I'm in .... but I have to warn you all before this begins ... with my vast computer-like data bank of MMA knowledge and intuitive assessment skills.... I am a certain winner of whatever prize might be offered up. Sorry boys but I am legally required to tell it like it is!
I WANT TANK I WANT TANK I WANT TANK.... Oh wait... that wouldn't a good first draft choice? uh.... Fedor? What were the rules again?
Ah fuck it I'm in anyways! When do we get our draft in? | |
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L1ghtn1ngShock Training Dummy
Posts : 7 Standard Cash : 5045 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2012-07-31 Location : redneck country
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:26 pm | |
| in but im lazy so yeah haha
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:29 pm | |
| What the hell?! Where did you come from? I thought you dissapeared off the face of the Earth. I propose a rule; LightningShock can only participate if he posts on the forum at least once a day. | |
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Krieger Title Holder
Posts : 2176 Standard Cash : 5927 Reputation : 194 Join date : 2011-08-12 Location : Calgary
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:33 pm | |
| Heh .... I bumped him a rep point cause that O looked kinda sad. | |
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L1ghtn1ngShock Training Dummy
Posts : 7 Standard Cash : 5045 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2012-07-31 Location : redneck country
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:51 pm | |
| i have returned from the dead. and you all shall pay hahaha.
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Chrom Hall of Famer
Posts : 5966 Standard Cash : 23046 Reputation : 257 Join date : 2011-07-06 Age : 43 Location : Minnesota
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:34 pm | |
| Glad you made it here man! | |
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norcalmatt Pro Fighter
Posts : 1076 Standard Cash : 16585 Reputation : 103 Join date : 2011-07-10 Age : 48 Location : high up in the sierra nevadas (ca)
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:30 am | |
| i think im in....i need to read the rules.....never done fantasy league before | |
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Berserk Amateur Fighter
Posts : 417 Standard Cash : 28816 Reputation : 33 Join date : 2011-08-29 Age : 42 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:11 am | |
| this is an awesome idea! I'm totally in | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:19 am | |
| OK guys, will try to answer some questions.
Krieger, you can draft anybody with sherdog profile. However, a guy without any pro MMA fights (defined by a record kept on sherdog's fighter profile) isn't going to do you much good.
You can send me your proxy list anytime before the end of the day on Friday (I need time to get everyone their teams before Saturday night's fights). The earlier you get me your list, the earlier you get to pick in the draft.
For those of you who don't know how a proxy draft works..... Each of you send me a list of your top 50 or so fighters you want drafted. When you are up, I will draft on your behalf the best available from your list. If your list of proxy fighters is not long enough, I will automatically draft highest available fighter from our site's top 10 rankings starting with HW working down. Because of this you also have the option to list some fighters you definitely DON'T want me to draft for you. You must draft at least one fighter from HW, LHW, MW, WW, & LW classes. You must have at least 2 fighters total from Feather, Bantam, or Fly classes.
The draft will "snake" meaning the draft order reverses every round (guy with the last pick in the first round will get 2 picks in a row as they will draft first in the second round).
I am going to cap the number of members at 7 total (first come first serve).
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:21 am | |
| BTW... if you are looking for a good starting point for top fighters, I would definitely start with this site's top 10 rankings by weight class. Additionally, www.fightmatrix.com is a great spot to find ranked fighters by weight class as I think they go top 50 or so for each weight class. | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:24 am | |
| To answer some PM's I've gotten about how much time will need to be invested in this fantasy league.
After you submit your proxy list of fighters to me, essentially NO time will be required by you. This is not like fantasy baseball or football where you have to spend time setting your roster every week. Your drafted team is your team for the entire year.
As outlined in the rules, you do have 2 trades (either with another team member or free agent) you can use any time during the year. However, this is all done at your own time, and there are no deadlines. Trades will just be honred on a first come first serve basis. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:52 pm | |
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- 5. When drafting, I will pick the highest fighter still available on your list, unless it comes down to you still needing to fill a gap in a weight class.
So does this mean that it would be wise to fill the required weight-class criteria right away on our lists (the first 7 picks)? Or are you basicly just referring to the very end of the draft? | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:39 pm | |
| It's really up to how you want to order your fighters. If you put a lot of heavyweights at the top, it's possible your first few picks may all be heavyweights. Then the most you could have in any other weight class would be one. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:12 pm | |
| Got it. My main concern was the possibilty of default list fighters (not my own listed fighters) being assigned to my team due to the fact that I didn't fill my weight class criteria ealry enough in my proxy list. But thinking about it now, that won't be a problem as long as I make my list big enough. | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:25 am | |
| Alright guys. Please get your lists to me today. Will need to sort out before the fights tomorrow.
Perfect case scenario, I get 7 takers early today, and can start posting a somewhat live drive early this afternoon.
Right now, I have 2 lists. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:29 am | |
| Sorry if this is possibly beyond last minute. If it's too late, I understand. I'll just keep track of it myself if need be so I can jump in every now and then and brag if I' doing good and say "FYI, I would be beating you if I was officially entered!" Josh Koscheck Clay Guida Frank Mir Scott Jorgensen Dustin Poirier Rory McDonald Brian Stann Cheick Kongo Ryan Bader Chris Leben Diego Sanchez Michael Bisping Donald Cerrone Mark Munoz Alan Belcher Alexander Gustaffson Thiago Alves Jim Miler Frankie Edgar Lyoto Machida Hstsu Hioki Urijah Faber Anthony Pettis Rich Franklin Melvin Guillard Yushin Okami Martin Kampmann Rashad Evans Demian Maia Joe Lauzon Junior Dos Santos Dan Hardy Phil Davis Nick Diaz Chad Mendes Dennis Siver Jake Ellenberger Ben Henderson Tim Boetsch Cain Velasquez Diego Nunes Johny Hendricks Jon Jones Nate Diaz Vitor Belfort Fabricio Werdum Dan Henderson Jose Aldo Demetrious Johnson | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
Posts : 5981 Standard Cash : 59640 Reputation : 512 Join date : 2011-07-11 Age : 43 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:31 am | |
| Now that I'm looking at this.... I probably could have just PM'd you my list, eh? | |
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Berserk Amateur Fighter
Posts : 417 Standard Cash : 28816 Reputation : 33 Join date : 2011-08-29 Age : 42 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:20 am | |
| Come on, lets get some more lists in this bitch! | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:16 am | |
| Haven't started yet. We have 4 participants right now.
Are you all ok with me moving forward.... or is this not enough?
I will wait until about noon or so central time in case anyone comes late to the game. | |
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stock Top 10 King
Posts : 2377 Standard Cash : 35388 Reputation : 274 Join date : 2011-08-01 Location : Madison
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:17 pm | |
| Alright guys, the draft is complete. If anyone wants to join late, they can make a team of their choosing from the remaining fighters.
If anyone is not happy with their roster, they have the option to swap out any guy with an undrafted fighter before the fights start tonight.
Berserk Anderson Silva Jose Aldo Benson Henderson Renan Barao Georges St. Pierre Carlos Condit Rashad Evans Lyoto Machida Martin Kampmann Cain Velasquez
Chrom Daniel Cormier Chris Weidman Johny Hendricks Gilbert Melendez Chan Sung Jung Mauricio Rua Nate Diaz Urijah Faber Chael Sonnen Travis Browne
Stock Jon Jones Junior Dos Santos Dominick Cruz Joseph Benavidez Michael Bisping Jake Ellenberger Phil Davis Donald Cerrone Luke Rockhold Glover Teixeira
Triggerman Josh Koscheck Clay Guida Frank Mir Scott Jorgensen Dustin Poirier Rory MacDonald Brian Stann Cheick Kongo Ryan Bader Chris Leben
Here are some top guys who did not get drafted....
Dan Henderson Demetrious Johnson Frank Edgar Vitor Belfort Erik Koch Fabricio Werdum Brian Bowles Gray Maynard Anthony Pettis BJ Penn Dennis Siver Eddie Wineland Donald Cerrone Alexander Gustafsson Eduardo Dantas Alan Belcher Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Brad Pickett Eddie Alvarez Hatsu Hioki Forrest Griffin Antonio Silva Demian Maia Cheick Kongo
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Berserk Amateur Fighter
Posts : 417 Standard Cash : 28816 Reputation : 33 Join date : 2011-08-29 Age : 42 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Fantasy Idea! Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| Damn you Chrom, you got Korean Zombie! lol | |
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