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PostSubject: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySat May 17, 2014 10:35 pm

just wanted to bitch about how much of a tool Tito is. taking down a man that is a head shorter and 30 lbs less and then bragging like he just beat goliath
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 12:46 am

and it seems that there is a buzz that shlememnko threw the fight.
certainly would explain the ease with which tito took him down and got that choke, but i true, it would severely damage shlemenko's image in my eyes. and move bellator that much closer to wwe.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 9:30 am

The tiny Russian called Tito out... then got choked unconscious... sounds like just deserts to me.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 12:37 pm

There were rumblings right when the fight was mentioned that this might be a big set up to try and gain Tito some form of relevancy, and that included the call out by Shlemenko. I can't say I'd be shocked if it was true. Bellator needs Tito to be at least somewhat relevant, and he hasn't been that in a long time. Not to mention Bellator employs part time pro wrestlers, so a fix wouldn't be that hard to imagine! LOL!


Either way, Tito has no business bragging about beating up on a small MW. I wouldn't and didn't pay a dime for that card, so I didn't see the fight, but I can imagine just how over the top theatrical and self-complimenting Tito was afterwards. Glad I didn't have to attempt to stomach that....
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 1:15 pm

He was actually not that bad after the fight. He was very complementary of Shlemenko and the only negative talk was to the UFC for trying to erase him from the UFC records.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 1:17 pm

One more thing... when you're a 6-1 underdog, and you destroy the guy in the first round... you get some bragging rights.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 3:28 pm

how was he complementary of shlemenko? saying that he doesn't punch that hard?
and these ridiculous odds make me believe that the whole thing was a set up even more. plus, to think of it, when i first saw the video of shlemenko calling out tito, i have the feeling as if im watching fedor acting like rampage. very unnatural.
and that takedown and choke.. if it wasnt a set up, the russian needs to work on his ground skills, a lot. i wouldnt let tito get that on me.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Thought the Jackson UD was bullshit. However, the fight overall was pretty shitty and non-entertaining so it's not like I feel bad for lawall. Looks like the sherdog judges agreed (unanimous for lawall).

I had the Chandler fight a draw (3 rounds for Chandler and a 10-8 round for Brooks). I feel good about the decision since that 3rd round was so lopsided for Brooks (arm pinned and landed punch after punch unanswered for 15 seconds until he was saved by the bell), and could have easily been stopped or would have been stopped in another 10 seconds. 3 of the 5 rounds were really very close.

Kongo destroys a tomato can.... no surprise there.

I really like the two Russian heavyweights Bellator has. I wouldn't mind the UFC signing them to bring some excitement to the HW division. Volkov and Minakov are both fairly tallented.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:11 pm

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how was he complementary of shlemenko? saying that he doesn't punch that hard?
He actually said something more along the lines of "Well, I've been hit harder" which is an obvious and honest statement.
He also said that he is a true warrior and a great champ, hence the reason why Tito/Punishment Athletics had chosen to sponsor him when he was coming up in the ranks.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:12 pm

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One more thing... when you're a 6-1 underdog, and you destroy the guy in the first round... you get some bragging rights.

WHAT?!?!

How in the fuck was he a 6-1 underdog?!? Those might be the most ridiculous odds I've ever heard! The guy a fucking MW for Christ's sake!!

That really doesn't make me feel any differently about how the fight should've and did play out.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:15 pm

He's a middle weight title holder on  a 13 fight win streak...
Against a 40 year old who hadn't won a fight since July 2011.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Chrom wrote:

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how was he complementary of shlemenko? saying that he doesn't punch that hard?

He actually said something more along the lines of "Well, I've been hit harder" which is an obvious and honest statement.
He also said that he is a true warrior and a great champ, hence the reason why Tito/Punishment Athletics had chosen to sponsor him when he was coming up in the ranks.

well, that's true, i forgot that they sponsored him.

but this makes me even more suspicious. what sense does it make to call out a person that sponsored you.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:21 pm

ill tell you what sense.
business sense
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptySun May 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Chrom wrote:
He's a middle weight title holder on  a 13 fight win streak...
Against a 40 year old who hadn't won a fight since July 2011.

Well look, I may have strong views and opinions on some MMA topics, but I'm always honest, and you gotta believe me when I tell you that as soon as this fight was announced, I said "This is a cakewalk for Tito". I'm sure Shlemenko has had a wonderful time kicking ass in Bellator's world renowned MW division, but he was a smallish MW fighting a big, strong LHW with powerful wrestling.
I don't think I'm some kind of genius who knew something no one else knew. I just think those were absolutely horrendous odds.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptyMon May 19, 2014 8:40 pm

Tito is a fighter past his prime, on the down hill side of his career with a body (neck) that is getting older that he is... FAST. Shlemenko might not be a UFC grade fighter but he does have some degree of legitimacy so too did the fight.

Tito is an entertainer and a draw more for his entertainment value than his killer skill set. He did what he was paid to do. fight a legitimate fight, put together a legitimate win and entertained the crowd. That will get him another fight, more money and feed the fans.

Good on ya Tito
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptyMon May 19, 2014 8:51 pm

Krieger wrote:
 Shlemenko might not be a UFC grade fighter...... and......


Tito is an entertainer and a draw more for his entertainment value than his killer skill set. That will get him another fight, more money and feed the fans.

Yeah, I couldn't agree more!

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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptyTue May 20, 2014 9:06 am

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Chrom wrote:
He's a middle weight title holder on  a 13 fight win streak...
Against a 40 year old who hadn't won a fight since July 2011.


Well look, I may have strong views and opinions on some MMA topics, but I'm always honest, and you gotta believe me when I tell you that as soon as this fight was announced, I said "This is a cakewalk for Tito". I'm sure Shlemenko has had a wonderful time kicking ass in Bellator's world renowned MW division, but he was a smallish MW fighting a big, strong LHW with powerful wrestling.
I don't think I'm some kind of genius who knew something no one else knew. I just think those were absolutely horrendous odds.

I don't remember Tito being a +600 underdog. Maybe it opened at that.
Before the fight Tito was at +215 (still a pretty good underdog). I had thought Tito should win given his size, but I stayed away looking at the fact that he was winless 8 of his last 9 fights and hadn't won in 3 years.
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PostSubject: Re: bellator 120   bellator 120 EmptyTue May 20, 2014 2:43 pm

Yeah I can sort of see how one would balance out the other, but I just looked at it like yeah; Tito had lost 8 of 9, but this was a Bellator MW, not Liddell, Machida, Forrest Griffin, Rashad, or Li'l Nog.

And just to be clear, I'm not shitting on Tito. Shlemenko called him out, and Tito went in there and put him down. Good for him. I'm just saying, let's not pretend like Tito just did something impressive.
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