The Walking Dead

hahaha...I love that you guys know me so well. Trust me I was thinking that, but I've come to realize that there are very few things that my wife and I watch together so when we find one I try not to complain and ruin it for her. So as much as I wanted to I said nothing about the propane explosion...or the fact that the priest was randomly found on top of a rock just like a silly plot in a video game...or that the zombie that almost killed him miraculously managed to keep her glasses on through all her undead experiences, or that they can all jump in a sespool of zombie fluids and poo that has been festering for this whole time and no one is the least bit bothered by it or gets at all infected from it.

No. I choose to keep my mouth closed.

But all in all, I've actually REALLY enjoyed this season so far, I like the extra gore and intensity. Having said that I want Tyrese to die. He's a big bearded girl. And not the type like Carol. The girly type.

samger2 wrote:

...or the fact that the priest was randomly found on top of a rock just like a silly plot in a video game...or that the zombie that almost killed him miraculously managed to keep her glasses on through all her undead experiences, or that they can all jump in a sespool of zombie fluids and poo that has been festering for this whole time and no one is the least bit bothered by it or gets at all infected from it.

Yeah, I had to shake my head a little at all of those too, particularly the walker cesspool part. They just fought the battle of their lives, and then took off running through the woods, yet no one has any sort of open cut or abrasion that would be susceptible to all the walker fluid they're bounding around in? Kinda reminded me of that scene in season 2 at the farmhouse, where they found the bloated walker down in the well, and they had to get him out because they needed all the water they could salvage. Then the thing rips in half when they're pulling it out and walker blood and guts dumps into the well and they're all like "Damn, now we can't use this water. Well, seal it up!" Really?! NOW you can't use the water?! But you were OK with using it when there was a walker living in it for god knows how long?!?!

But yeah, it's just TV and all that. Doesn't bother me, it's just fun to point out! lol

It doesn't bother me enough to make me stop watching. Yet.

I will be upset if that happens because I watch two "serious" shows The Walking Dead and The Ultimate Fighter. That's it...when I find something that keeps my attention I try to endure it as long as possible.

Triggerman99 wrote:

Oh shit, that's right! Now that I'm thinking about it, she did shoot the tank first. Well that's a little better I guess. lol

Well I'm assuming Bob's a goner- whether by being bit or being eaten- because Morgan's obviously on his way, and we know the rule on this show about not having too many black guys on at once. Lol

LOL! Yeah I would say it safe to say Bob's a goner. They have already done the one leg guy thing on the show with Herschel...

Haha, I just take it for what it is worth, but yeah some stuff is head scratching.

I didn't really have a problem with the priest randomly being on top of a rock, because that seems normal to me. He saw some walkers, they chased him, and he climbed a rock to get away from them. What seemed silly to me was the blood curdling screaming he was doing about them. They were on the ground and he was on top of a boulder and they cant climb. Wtf is there to be scared of. Wait them out...lol.

Well I think Sam was more referring to the convenience of the group just happening to come across him in the woods. What are the chances that of anywhere this dude could be, they happen to end up right there in screaming range of him? lol
I don't really have a problem with it because it's necessary, but yeah, it was pretty convenient.

I'm starting to become much more tolerant of those convenient little scenarios, because I guess without them we wouldn't have show

samger2 wrote:

I'm starting to become much more tolerant of those convenient little scenarios, because I guess without them we wouldn't have show

Haha, yeah buddy. That is kind if what we have been trying to say. Sure the likelihood of them coming across some dude screaming on a rock in the vast state of Georgia is highly unlikely, but the alternative would be them walking around by themselves talking to each other every episode haha.

I thought last night episode was a great one once again. The scene with Bob was literally taken word for word right out of the book. "Tainted Meat, hahaha you're eating tainted meat!" Lol!

The episode was freaking brutal...brutal murders in a Church...blood splattering against Church tapestries. Wow.

Yeah this was a pretty savage episode. I kind of knew what was coming because I peaked into the world of the comics at the end of last season, but I can imagine it was kind of jarring for people who were kind of in the dark.
The only thing I didn't like about The Hunters getting killed was the fact that now we'll never know if eating an infected person will cause you to become infected. I know, I know; everyone is infected. But it's been noted several times that if you're bit by a walker, you're a dead man walking and only have a few days to live. I just wish we could've gotten a little clarity as to whether or not consuming infected meat would have the same effect as being bitten.
One other thing, and I'm not asking because it annoyed me or anything, but only because I'm wondering if anyone has a real solid, logical answer:
How did Rick and his group know to come back and rescue the rest of the group back at the church?
At first I thought they must've walked all the way to the school and then back again once they realized The Hunters weren't there, but Gabriel said it's a 10 minute walk. So 10 minutes both ways, plus at least 5 minutes to discuss whether to search around the school for The Hunters or not, and we're talking 25 minutes, at least. There's no way Garreth's little monologue of mental torture inside the church before deciding to shoot the doors in took 25 minutes.
My wife suggested that Rick had planned it; to set a trap to lure The Hunters to the church so they could ambush them. But I have one huge problem with that;
What the fuck was Rick waiting for?! The Hunters were inside the church for probably 10 minutes before Rick's part of the group let themselves be known. If Rick knew The Hunters were inside the church and he was planning to take them out, 10 minutes is a hell of a long time to leave your friends and family basically unarmed inside the church with 6 heavily armed people who clearly plan to kill them!!
I like the 2nd theory about Rick's group setting a trap, but it just doesn't add up for me. I'm gonna go with "While walking toward the school, someone in Rick's group spotted The Hunters emerge from the woods and head toward the church, so they immediately returned to the church".

Oh, but that still wouldn't explain letting The Hunters hang out in the church for 10 minutes. Fuck!!
lol

Yeah this was a brutal episode for sure.  I thought the last line from Maggie was pretty awesome when Gabriel said this is the house of g0d.  "NO...It's just four walls and a roof"  Almost like she was saying g0d was dead too.  Pretty powerful.

Trigg - Your wife is spot on.  Rick's plan was to only pretend like they were all leaving and get the hunters all in the church at the same time cornered for the kill.  Abraham said the plan had balls, I think implying it was something more than just charging their camp and eradicating them while risking some loss.

As for why we waited so long, I think that is a combination of 2 things:

1) I think Rick and his group were in/around the church almost immediately after the hunters went inside, but they were waiting for them to all get to the front so they could flank them and give them no escape route.

2) If he didn't wait that time we would of been robbed of that really intense edge of our seat 10 minutes of biting our nails and wondering what was gonna happen lol.  Tv man tv.

I will say the show does a REALLY good job of making you think "wow, how the F are they gonna get out of this alive" and then something happens and they get out of it alive.

There's been alot of religious and God talk throughout the whole series...not only did Maggie say that, but earlier in the episode she picked up the Bible and then put it back down.

im wondering why at the end it seemed like Darryl was hiding Carrol......when he popped out of the woods at the end and I think it was rick asked about carrol....Darryl says come on out and then it ended......am I reading too much into this or is there supposed to some sort of suspense here?....

No you're absolutely right. That was clearly an intentional cliffhanger.
It was actually Michonne he was talking to when he emerged from the woods, and when she asked where Carrol was, Darrly gets this weird kind of reluctant, almost shameful look on his face and then says "come on out.....". So we're supposed to believe in some capacity that whether it's Carrol who's with him or somebody else (or somebody else AND Carrol), Darryl for whatever reason is apprehensive to bring them out from the woods.

OK, so just judging by that scene, plus what I saw in the previews for next week's episode, here's what I happened, and is about to happen. Bear with me on this! LOL


Next week's episode is going to be entirely or almost entirely focused on what happened to Beth, from the time she was picked up by that car right up until the time we see Darryl come out of the woods and talk to Michonne. I'm betting both Carrol and Beth have returned with Darryl to the church, and the reason Darryl looks almost ashamed is because he knows he's brought a world of hurt back to the group by bringing Beth back there.
We saw in the preview for next week that Beth is in a hospital gown and appears to be in some kind of small community similar or maybe even smaller to others we've seen (the Prison, Woodbury, Terminus). I base that on the seemingly crazy cop-woman telling Beth that she needs to learn to be part of the system around here or something to that effect. And I base the part about this woman being crazy on the part they showed where she appears to pick something up off a table and bash Beth in the face with it.
So my guess is that Darryl and Carrol infiltrated this place, snatched up Beth and escaped, but not before this cop woman (or maybe her superior who's meaner and crazier than she is) saw them escaping and gave chase, along with several loyal followers.
So now they arrive back at the church, but they know they were followed by people from this community who are hell bent on taking Beth back, or at the very least want revenge for the people Darryl and Carrol almost certainly killed in their rescue of Beth.

Hmmmm..,.could be...sounds plausible for sure.

I was talking to my brother and he said he heard that beth may be a big part of the spin off series.....so I guess we'll see

I actually thought that at first it could possibly be Beth coming out of the woods as well and this next episode would be a recap. The only reason I don't think it is Beth (even though it very well could be) is that they would be wrapping up another big storyline very quickly like they just did with the hunters. My guess is they want to have Beth being captured be an extended storyline.

My theory is that Daryl has that black guy that was with Beth in all of the coming attractions with him (who looks to me like the kid that plays Chris Rock in Everyone Hates Chris). The weird look on Daryl's face could be that he actually lost Carol or Carol got kidnapped during whatever they tried to do to get Beth out, so now Daryl is coming back with this new black guy and no Carol and Carol is now captured with Beth.

Or it's possible that Daryl has one of Beth's captures with him.

Those are my two theories anyways.

This was the exact time in the book where Aaron shows up, but I don't think the show is ready to go anywhere near that yet. Aaron was a recruiter from another group of survivors that Rick's group either join up with or dont i wont say in case its a show spoiler lol, but I seriously dont think they are ready to advance that far yet with all of the other open storylines going on.

Well I did read that the kid from "Everybody Hates Chris" is in fact going to be on the show soon, but I didn't see him in any previews or anything. I must've missed it.
I do agree that wrapping up Beth's story in one episode would be kind of a waste of a good plot, but that's why I think her rescue is gonna come with some baggage. I think her story has a direct correlation to the next villain.
So In the comics Aaron is this black kid, or that's two different people?

Sorry for short answer buddy on my phone. Aaron was not a black kid in the comic he was a gay guy who recruited for another place that they haven't found yet. But then again that doesn't seem to mean anything these days as bob was an old white guy lol.
My other thought (although it could just be for cliffhanger sake) was that Daryl seemed uneasy about bringing the person out. That's why I thought it was a new guy, a captured bad guy, no carol, or a combo of the two.
But I certainly wouldn't be shocked if it was Beth.
I know it's not Morgan because he is at least a month behind them.

Well I just saw that this week's episode is called "Slabtown" and there's reference to a new group if survivors who seem great, but there's some sort of darkness there below the surface. So it sounds like one way or another, we're gonna meet some new folks this week.

there is really some thing wrong with that group that has beth. One thing that really bugs me is that lead cop woman. Who pretty much keeps saying that things will get better and you need to be a team member and do the right thing yet she stands by and defends that raping P.O.S cop and excuses his ways and even defends him. If i was beth i would have told the cop to take off his pants and then have that zombie girl attack his sack. Seeing they have carol i can only assume that means daryl has the black guy who tried to help beth escape. Either way i see a bad ending for that hospital group.

ya....the hospital folks have no idea who they're messing with just in beth and carrol(provided she wakes up and is healthy) not even taking in to consideration daryl and the rest of the group.

and I agree that daryl probably has the black kid.

Yeah I'm sure the cop chick is supposed to be scary and intense and intimidating and all that, but I just find her really annoying. I really hope she's not the next big villain, because I would have a hard time buying her as the successor to the Governor and the Terminians.

I'm just confused in general by this new group. I just don't get the logic in their collective mindset, and I think I'm gonna have a real hard time caring about this storyline in any way. Maybe it's just the fact that we got introduced to a whole bunch of new people all at once and it's gonna take some time for me to process them, but so far I am very uninterested in their story.
Also, maybe I missed it, but do they not ever leave the hospital? They all just look so clean and shiny, like the zombie apacolypse just started for them like 2 weeks ago. Another reason I guess why I'm annoyed with them already. lol

Regardless, just thinking in general terms of what I know so far, I think Rick's group would have a hard time infilrating the hospital and wiping them out if it does come to that. It's a hospital, and it seems like that cop chick is psycho about keeping it locked up tight, so It's gonna be tough finding a soft spot in a building such as an electronically locked-down hospital.

So what was Beth's plan with the needle before they wheeled Carol in?

I'm not sure I remember that part. I saw Carol being brought in, but I don't recall Beth doing anything out of the ordinary.
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samger2 wrote:

So what was Beth's plan with the needle before they wheeled Carol in?

It wasn't a needle it was a pair of scissors.  Looked to me like she was going after the doctor with them right before seeing Carol.  Guess she was going to make another play at escaping. Feisty little thing lol