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By Jamie McAllister
Middleweight Contender Chris Weidman in an interview with MMAWeekly.

Chris Weidman upset the odds at UFC on Fuel TV: Munoz vs. Weidman defeating Mark Munoz in dominant fashion. After the bout Weidman called out UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva however Silva’s management have been dismissive of Weidman’s challenges labelling him a joke and an amateur.

Weidman fired back at Silva’s camp and states that Silva should be calling out Middleweights oppose to Welterweights.

“It’s like they’re trying to avoid my name being mentioned at all for the title shot. They’re trying to deflect with other guy’s names so people can start thinking about them as possibilities, but even guys they’re choosing to call out like GSP or (Nick) Diaz, they’re both welterweights. … The guy’s a champion of 185, he should be fighting the contenders. You don’t call out guys that aren’t going to be able to fight forever and guys that are lighter than you. Why don’t you call out Jon Jones? That makes sense, I’m sure a lot of people would watch, I’d love to watch too. If you’re not going to fight him, fight me, I’m ready to go.”
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 12:06 pm

have to agree with him. not just with weidman but silvas management seems like no other 185'er should get a shot and there are several guys on the rise who he hasnt fought yet. Belcher,Bisping,Weidman,Stann,Boestch all come to mind that should be in silvas mind for a possible title match.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 1:07 pm

Definitely.

I think if Bisping beats Stann, he should get the next shot.
Then you have the Belcher/Belfort fight.... I think the winner of that fight is definitely deserving.

However, "two fights from now" for all of those guys is a really long time away. How long does Silva want to wait for his next title defense, mid 2013?
Weidman is ready now.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 2:11 pm

Well, first off, Silva didn't call out Nick Diaz or GSP. Diaz called out Silva, and Silva simply said he would fight GSP; he didn't call him out. That's different.

Second, where the hell does Weidman get off blasting Silva for "avoiding" anybody? Weidman is doing the exact same thing by outright saying he doesn't want to fight Belfort or Belcher or any of the other guys who directly called him out.

It's the exact same thing, so this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. He should probably look in the mirror and think about what he's saying before he bitches about the most dominant champion in UFC history for doing exactly what he himself is doing.

I though the Silva hate would be toned down a bit after he shalacked Sonnen in the rematch, but apparently not......
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 2:27 pm

Silva's manager(s) agreed to a fight with Nick, sure it's not calling him out... but saying a WW coming off of a loss is a better choice than any of the 185lbs division is ludicrous!
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 2:43 pm

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Well, first off, Silva didn't call out Nick Diaz or GSP. Diaz called out Silva, and Silva simply said he would fight GSP; he didn't call him out. That's different.

Second, where the hell does Weidman get off blasting Silva for "avoiding" anybody? Weidman is doing the exact same thing by outright saying he doesn't want to fight Belfort or Belcher or any of the other guys who directly called him out.

It's the exact same thing, so this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. He should probably look in the mirror and think about what he's saying before he bitches about the most dominant champion in UFC history for doing exactly what he himself is doing.

I though the Silva hate would be toned down a bit after he shalacked Sonnen in the rematch, but apparently not......



To be honest i have little to no beef with Silva, My problem is with Silvas management. How are you going to call all the 185'ers a bunch of amatuers then start blowing off challenges from respectable contenders ? Silvas management is starting to paint a picture of him that isnt a pretty one and i dont think Silva has much if anything to do with it. Silva needs to step out of his magements shadow tell the UFC who he wnats to fight and some one who they can actually make happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 2:49 pm

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Silva's manager(s) agreed to a fight with Nick, sure it's not calling him out... but saying a WW coming off of a loss is a better choice than any of the 185lbs division is ludicrous!
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One name that both Soares and Guimaraes agreed on was the always divisive Welterweight Nick Diaz, whose management proposed the fight last week.
Reagrdless, Weidman was still incorrect and didn't have his facts straight, on top of being very hypocritical with what he is saying about Silva as far as avoiding him. It's not making him look very good, IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 2:58 pm

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Triggerman99 wrote:
Well, first off, Silva didn't call out Nick Diaz or GSP. Diaz called out Silva, and Silva simply said he would fight GSP; he didn't call him out. That's different.

Second, where the hell does Weidman get off blasting Silva for "avoiding" anybody? Weidman is doing the exact same thing by outright saying he doesn't want to fight Belfort or Belcher or any of the other guys who directly called him out.

It's the exact same thing, so this is a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. He should probably look in the mirror and think about what he's saying before he bitches about the most dominant champion in UFC history for doing exactly what he himself is doing.

I though the Silva hate would be toned down a bit after he shalacked Sonnen in the rematch, but apparently not......



To be honest i have little to no beef with Silva, My problem is with Silvas management. How are you going to call all the 185'ers a bunch of amatuers then start blowing off challenges from respectable contenders ? Silvas management is starting to paint a picture of him that isnt a pretty one and i dont think Silva has much if anything to do with it. Silva needs to step out of his magements shadow tell the UFC who he wnats to fight and some one who they can actually make happen.
I can definitely see that. It seems that people are so quick to hate on Silva for whatever reason that they forget who actually said what.
However, it doesn't change the fact that Silva does want big name fights at this point in career. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Is he going to get a big name fight? Maybe, maybe not. But he can want what he wants. He's allowed to have opinions like everbody else. Ultimately he's going to fight whoever is put in front of him anyway, so what's the big deal?
That doesn't give Chris freakin Weidman the right to go shooting off at the mouth about how Silva is afraid to fight him or whatever the hell shit he's talking about. I think he's giving himself a little too much credit by implying that Anderson goddamn Silva is scared of him. Give me a break.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 3:04 pm

on that note, weidman is allowed to have an opinion too. he has the right to challenge a fighter and try to get it by taunting anderson. is he going to get the finght? maybe
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 3:06 pm

Could you please post the quote where Weidman called Silva afraid.
All he said is that it makes no sense for WWs to be mentioned when he is the 185 champ.

And I am sorry, but when Silva has someone speaking on your behalf of your choosing, it really is the same as if Silva is saying these things himself. He has the option anytime he wants to say what is on his mind. But he is content letting his management team do all the talking for him.
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Could you please post the quote where Weidman called Silva afraid.
All he said is that it makes no sense for WWs to be mentioned when he is the 185 champ.

And I am sorry, but when Silva has someone speaking on your behalf of your choosing, it really is the same as if Silva is saying these things himself. He has the option anytime he wants to say what is on his mind. But he is content letting his management team do all the talking for him.
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That doesn't give Chris freakin Weidman the right to go shooting off at the mouth about how Silva is afraid to fight him or whatever the hell shit he's talking about.
I didn't say he specifically said that. I meant I'm not entirely sure what he's saying. But the title of this thread is "Weidman thinks Anderson is trying to avoid him". So I don't know, you do the math. There is certainly some solid implication there.

And honestly I don't really care what Silva's management says, and neither does he apprently. If Silva himself is being quiet and laid back (like he always is), people are going to find something other reason to bitch about him. If they gotta hate on Silva because of his management, then so be it.

My point is Weidman is reaching here. And if he wants to fight Silva, fine. That's what he's supposed to want. But this double-standard bullshit where if Silva does something it's wrong, but if everybody else does it, it's fine and nobody bats an eye is getting really old and played-out.
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 5:08 pm

Weidman not wanting a fight that would be taking a step, or two for that matter, back after destroying the #1 contender makes much more sense than a Champion (or his managers not wanting to even fight in his own weight class to defend his title.

Also just because a post is pertaining to Silva and is questioning his managers statements... that doesn't = HATE THREAD
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PostSubject: Re: Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him   Weidman Thinks Anderson Is Trying To Avoid Him EmptyThu Aug 02, 2012 5:33 pm

If we're being honest here, every thread posted on here about Silva since the 2nd Sonnen fight is laced with negativity toward Silva. I'm sorry to point that out, but it's true.

But back on topic;

Munoz was not the #1 contender. He was one of a few top contenders, but not the one and only clear-cut guy.
Now did Weidman wreck Munoz? For sure. No denying that. But that doesn't automatically vault Weidman to #1 for the next shot.
This shit happens all the time;
Two fighters are paired up, with one fighter likely being one win away from a title shot, while the other is a relative unknown, but still capable of making things interesting. Usually, the "big name" guy comes out on top (see Frankie Edgar vs Matt Veach). But sometimes, the relative unknown scores the upset over the guy who is one fight away from a title shot(see Keith Jardine vs Houston Alexander). Does that mean the underdog automatically gets a title shot. Fuck no!! In fact, I don't think that's ever happened even once!

Now I could call Weidman's resume as a whole into play here to help prove my point, but I'm not going to, because I'm not trying to shit on the guy and I don't want it to seem like I am. But the fact of the matter is this wouldn't even be a big deal if Silva's people didn't come out and say they didn't like the idea of a Weidman fight. It's to the point now where everyone wants him to fight Weidman simply out of spite, not because Weidman truly deserves the shot as the clear-cut #1 contender, which he certainly does not and is not.
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If we're being honest here, every thread posted on here about Silva since the 2nd Sonnen fight is laced with negativity toward Silva. I'm sorry to point that out, but it's true.
So is it the media's fault for posting these articles or is it mine for making threads?
Also if Non-"hater" Silva articles were more abundant they would be posted. No one is stopping you from posting pro-Silva threads. Nor would anyone, at least not I, make complaints about it if you did. You have just as much power as the next member to post articles that you enjoyed and or agree with.
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In all honesty, I avoid posting "non-hater" articles because I fear they will be met with hate, and since that is already abundantly covered here, I don't even bother.
But you are correct; I do have the power to post them if I want to. But just so you know, that's why I don't. It's easier just to jump into article discussions that already exist on here and try to explain why you shouldn't be hating on the guy. Unfortunately, by the time I get here, the hatred is already rampant, and I feel compelled to challenge that.

But maybe you're right. Maybe I should stack the deck in my favor to begin with by posting an article that sets my desired tone, instead of waiting for the tone be set and then trying to sway the mentality after the fact.
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Heh late to the dance but here I am. Weidman.... Anderson isn't avoiding you, not ducking you, not scared of you. He sees you as a young rambunctious fighter looking for a short path to a BIG fight. So.... he will let his manager talk for him and he will sit at home around his bbq, waiting for Chael to show up and simply IGNORE you.

He's the champ and he gets to do this... he doesn't have to fight every young up and comer that beaks off from the sidelines, he doesn't have to fight the "haters choice", he fights who he and the UFC (Dana) agree who he should fight.

Whomever Anderson ends up fighting.... it will be a good one.
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Dude....where the fuck were you!?
You better have been at Silva's barbeque, because that's the only way i will forgive you for leaving me for dead in Silva Hater Land!

lol!
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Dude....where the fuck were you!?
You better have been at Silva's barbeque, because that's the only way i will forgive you for leaving me for dead in Silva Hater Land!

lol!

Heh I'm quite confident you were able to at least hold your own..... Bruce Lee

Anderson moving down to WW to fight GSP should shut the young fella up. He can move up the ladder and then Anderson or GSP or Nick can come up and knock and knock his ass to the grass and hopefully shut him up.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1289594-report-anderson-silva-debating-move-to-welterweight-to-fight-georges-st-pierre
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OOPS sorry I used a Bleacher Report source .... my bad!
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