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Chrom Hall of Famer
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| Subject: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:21 pm | |
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- "It makes no sense at all. Chael is as deserving as anybody for that next title shot. I mean he pushed him as far as anybody has ever pushed him, it was one of the best fights of the year, but the biggest thing is this is the fight the fans want. The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what I think and it doesn’t matter what Ed thinks. It matters what Dana (White) thinks. Ed’s not the matchmaker, I’m not the matchmaker, you’re not the matchmaker. Joe Silva and Dana White make the matches."
"I don’t think Anderson’s scared of Chael at all. I mean Anderson may be the greatest fighter of all time. Do I think he wants to fight Chael? There’s probably other people he’d rather fight at this point in his career. Chael poses some problems that a lot of these other guys don’t, and we’ll see." - For more from Sonnen's Manager, Mike Roberts, visit MMAWeekly.com
Following his dominant submission victory over Brian Stann, top Middleweight contender Chael Sonnen made his presence felt at UFC 136 when he issued a "loser leaves town" challenge to the division Champion, Anderson Silva, who sat cageside looking on. In the time since, UFC President Dana White has all but confirmed the bout, admitting that he would be "pretty f------ stupid" not to book the highly anticipated rematch. Opposed to the fight, however, is Anderson Silva's manager, Ed Soares, who recently blasted Sonnen for his legal troubles and use of testosterone, insisting that the Team Quest fighter should "take a number and get in line."
Now speaking out in response to Soares' comments is Sonnen's manager, Mike Roberts of MMA Incorporated, who shared his own sentiments on the matter. Unlike Soares, Roberts feels that there is currently no contender more deserving of the title shot than his client, and though he does not believe that Silva is scared, he says that Sonnen is likely far from the champ's first choice of opponents. source Game on! | |
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butterknifeninja Hall of Famer
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:24 pm | |
| Hey Ed, | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:39 pm | |
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- It matters what Dana (White) thinks. Ed’s not the matchmaker, I’m not the matchmaker, you’re not the matchmaker. Joe Silva and Dana White make the matches."
UH-oh! Where have I heard that before? But honestly, is there any doubt in anyone's mind that this should be next? | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:02 pm | |
| Nope, this should be next; especially with Hendo beefed up taking on Shogun at LHW. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:46 pm | |
| There really isn't anyone else worth putting in there with Silva than Chael at this point. Silva has demolished everyone else he has faced, and there isn't a viable contender other than Sonnen right now. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:53 pm | |
| - Triggerman99 wrote:
- There really isn't anyone else worth putting in there with Silva than Chael at this point. Silva has demolished everyone else he has faced, and there isn't a viable contender other than Sonnen right now.
Where have I hear THIS before, couldn't agree more. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:12 pm | |
| Well honestly, who else is there? I honestly can't think of anyone else. Bisping? Munoz? neither one really seems worthy. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:33 pm | |
| I agree, there isn't anyone right now in the MW division who can argue they are worthy of a title shot; especially Bisping. The winner of the Chris Leben - Mark Munoz fight won't help with clarity in the matter either; since Brian Stann KO'd Leben then lost to Chael. He is the clear cut choice and no one can change my mind about it.
LOL Maybe the winner of Miller - Bisping can have a shot in a #1 Contender match if Silva needs more time for Beiber dancing and healing his bum shoulder. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:39 pm | |
| Can you imagine if Mayhem gets the shot by beating Bisping? Chael would unleash a fury of shit-talking at Miller that would make his Silva BS look mild. That would be epic; A Sonnen/Mayhem verbal battle. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:44 pm | |
| I concur, probably the greatest live spectalce in sports-entertainment history; I for one would love it. Although I don;t honestly think Bisping or Miller would deserve such a fight regardless of who the winner is in there match.
Spike or someone would have to air and series of shows where they would just burn each other back and fourth; and at the end fans would vote for the winner. lol | |
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Krieger Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:10 pm | |
| Bisping or Miller dont deserve a shot? I think anyone in the division who has not already lost to Anderson deserves a shot. All this crap about Chael deserving a shot is just that .... crap.
The guy had his shot he tapped.... he quit.... he cried uncle.... he didnt want to fight anymore... and now all of a suddent he's first on the list again? Naw...
But.... I will like seeing him get his asss handed to him AGAIN and this time it will be much faster and even more devistating. | |
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Chrom Hall of Famer
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:34 pm | |
| So anyone who hasn't fought him is relevant.... or at least more relevant that Chael.... | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:02 pm | |
| I think the point was that he would like to see some new blood in there with Silva, not that Sonnen isn't relevant and everybody else is. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:12 am | |
| If Kreig's or anyone else can justify any other MW fighter legitimately, I will entertain the idea of someone else getting a title shot; until then . . . . . Nope.
Or just read the 5th post of this topic..... | |
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ChokingVictim Sparring Partner
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:37 am | |
| Silva-Sonnen 2 has by far the most juice to it than anyone else you could put him up against in that division right now.
Id like to see someone new against him but who | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:03 pm | |
| I thought about this the other day, Jake Shileds! He beat Hendo at Middleweight?? hmmmm Although I persoanally think he'd get KO'd. | |
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Krieger Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:19 pm | |
| - Chrom wrote:
- So anyone who hasn't fought him is relevant.... or at least more relevant that Chael....
Why not Munoz? He hasn't lost to Anderson... didn't tap... didn't quit. Seems ligit to me. | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:17 pm | |
| After Silva makes Chael quit again, then he can go destroy Munoz.
Of course, even after Silva defeats Sonnen a 2nd time, Chael is still gonna say he actually won, and Silva is a horrible fighter, and then all the Silva-haters will fall in love all over again with Chael and demand a 3rd bout, and round-and-round we go...... | |
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Chrom Hall of Famer
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:35 pm | |
| - Krieger wrote:
- Chrom wrote:
- So anyone who hasn't fought him is relevant.... or at least more relevant that Chael....
Why not Munoz? He hasn't lost to Anderson... didn't tap... didn't quit. Seems ligit to me. Assuming he can get past Leben... Wins against Simpson, CB and Maia = title? That is a weak 4 fight streak if you ask me. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:38 pm | |
| Munoz hasn't been tested in the MW division, especially not enough to deserve a title shot; a win over Leben might help that out. But Bisping is literally going to start crying if he has to fight anymore meaningless matches against anyone whose not Dan Henderson. I love how trigger is so empahtic about how any Chael supporters are so obsessed with Chael beating Silva, that they can't form rational thoughts about the possibility of anything else relating to the MW title. I'll support Chael proudly as he is the only fighter to pressure Silva in there fight, while the rest of you bash him and cheer for guys like Bisping who wouldn't make it out of the first against Silva. and if the day comes when Silva beats Chael for the second time, I sure as hell hope there is some legitimate contender ready to face Silva and give him somewhat of a challenge. Maybe something along the lines of Chael .vs. Belfort for the #1 contendership would be justifiable. I'd say Vitor is as close as anyone besides Sonnen to deserve a rematch. | |
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Chrom Hall of Famer
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:47 pm | |
| Just think what an Anderson Silva kick would do to Munoz, if a sloppy slow striker like Hamill can catch him with a first round DBHK.... | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:52 pm | |
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- love how trigger is so empahtic about how any Chael supporters are so obsessed with Chael beating Silva, that they can't form rational thoughts about the possibility of anything else relating to the MW title.
I'll support Chael proudly as he is the only fighter to pressure Silva in there fight, while the rest of you bash him and cheer for guys like Bisping who wouldn't make it out of the first against Silva. and if the day comes when Silva beats Chael for the second time, I sure as hell hope there is some legitimate contender ready to face Silva and give him somewhat of a challenge. When exactly did I say Chael supporters are obsessed with him beating Silva? I said "Silva haters", not Sonnen fans. Big difference there, my friend. There are people out there who hate Silva so much that they would root for anybody to defeat him, and then there are Chael Sonnen fans. maybe lately there is a crossover, but they are two different groups of people. Come on man, if you're agenda is to try and pick a fight with me, at least have the decency to quote me correctly. And I've never bashed Chael as a fighter. I've bashed his methods of selling a fight and blaming others for his own shortcomings. I said flat-out that he deserves the next shot. | |
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lambhimself Pro Fighter
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:16 pm | |
| You never said obsessed word for word.
Your comment implied that the 2 groups were one in the same imo, which I took offense too; as any educated fight fan might do the same.
and yes, you said flat out that Chael deserves the next shot.
and if your critical of the fighters behavior or actions in anyway, your critical of a fighter.
I don't recall Chael ever blaming anyone for losing to Silva, unkless your referring to the TRT thing with CSAC? | |
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Triggerman99 Title Holder
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| Subject: Re: Sonnen's Manager: It doesn't matter what Ed Soares thinks Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:28 pm | |
| I never said anything about Chael fans, period. That's why I said "Silva haters". I don't see why there was confusion. You don't need to assume anything or try and read between the lines. I say what I mean. | |
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