The Ultimate Fighter Rousey vs Tate *spoilers*

If i had to go out on a limb at this point. i think Raquel and Grant will be this years tuf winners. but thats just my thought.

Is Grant the guy with bad teeth from the UK? If that's him then yes I agree I think he'll win on the guys side. Not sure why, maybe it's her hands, but I see Jessica winning for some reason for the girls.

Yeah I don't think Jessica is an easy fight, either. But since every girl wanted to fight her, it makes it seem like she's the weakest fighter left. Which I think is exactly why Dana put her against his girl Raquel, even though both coaches wanted the other matchup.

I think the men's finale will be Davey Grant vs Chris Holdsworth. They both seem to be head and shoulders over the other fighters. It's hard to pick a winner, but I will say that Davey did look like a superbeast against Louis, but that could be because Louis is just blatantly the weakest guy on the show. If Daveys strength was just an aberration, Holdsworth should win this season.

The fight was what I expected. Holdsworth is a tough dude. I was actually impressed by Ronda's team building....as much as I don't care for how she acts like a spoiled brat I do like how she treats her team...she's a good motivator and coach.

I honestly don't know who to pick on the womens' side of things. I think it could go to any one of them. As much as Dana is all about Pena...I feel about her like he feels about Sarah...I'm just not sold based upon one fight. She did a great job beating Shana...but in all fairness Shana looked waaay past Pena and didn't even consider her a challenge. She lost that fight before she endered the octagon.

So we'll see.

Yeah, I still think Holdsworth should take this season. He seems not only like he's a very skilled fighter, but he's got his shit together mentally, as well. He seems dialed in and I think he wants this more than the rest of the fighters.
 
Sara vs Julianna could be interesting. Julianna will probably be the physically stronger fighter, but I'm not so sure she has the advantage on the ground. Sara is vicious when the fight hits the mat, and if Julianna can't hold her down and maintain control, I think Sara is going to tear her to pieces. I think the best chance Julianna has to win this fight is lay n pray, but I don't think she can do it for 3 rounds. Also, Sara's not completely right in the head IMO, and the fact that Miesha is favoring Julianna might be slowly making Sara more and more crazy, which is bad for Julianna.

Wow...Juliana beat the turds out of Sarah...what a freaking one sided beatdown. Can't say I was surprised by the outcome...for the MOST part usually when they really pump up one fighter to be the dominant one with all the skills that SHOULD win...the other one ends up being the winner. Plus with all the Dana love for Pena I figured Juliana was gonna come out the victor, but damn I never expected her to win in such dominating fashion.

Awesome win. I did feel bad though for Juliana for barely getting and cheers for the win.

So I wonder what the big "thing" is that happens on the next episode?

Was the fight any good? I watched the whole episode, but I just stared at Sarah's ass for the entire fight, so I have no idea how it went down. Why the hell am I so attracted to that freaky chick? I really liked her Jungle Jane hair at the weigh-in, too.
Has anyone else noticed that Guttierez is, at most, 2 days away from plowing Rousey? She's been basically throwing herself at him for the last two episodes. That's just really odd to me for some reason.
And yeah, this weird twist has me guessing. I can't even venture a guess as to what it might be. If I had to try, I would say maybe a fight cancelation at the last minute due to doctors's advice

I see it as Guitierez kind of overstepping his bounds. Rousey seems to go with it at first but then push him away. Like when he was dancing with her, I think he totally brought that on, she went with it to be nice but when he kept doing it she pushed him away and said "ok ok"...kinda like she had enough. I think he's trying, she's entertaining it to be nice but she won't have any of him.

Yeah probably. Now that I think about it, he was the one in the first episode running through the list of girls on the show and explaining where they stand to him as far as hooking up. Like he saw Jessica as "his cougar" or something like that, and he assumed Jessamyn wanted to hook up with him because she looked at him an extra long time when were talking or something like that. He was basicly just inventing things in his head and turning it into "they all want me". I could definitely see him pushing it too far with Ronda while thinking she was all about it and getting cracked one for it. lol

I'm still baffled on this whole never-before-seen twist. I'm trying to think of something major that we haven't yet seen on the show, but I'm at a loss. From fighters quitting and wanting out of the house and having to be replaced to Jesse Taylor getting the boot after already qualifying for the finale, I can't think of anything we haven't seen already. It's got to be a combination of things. We did see Davey crying, and he's scheduled to fight Anthony. So maybe something happened and Davey can't fight now, which would mean Anthony gets not one but two free passes and ends up in the finale without even having to fight on the show once. Now that would certainly be something we've never seen before.

Good call Trigger...I'll bet you're right about that. Which would suck so bad because I think Davey would otherwise have a real real good shot at winning the show.

I hope you are wrong trigger about davey but i think you might be right and that really sucks for 3 reason.

1, not much of a fan of anthony

2. I think it would be complete bs to get to the finale with out fighting

3. I think davey would smash anthony pretty good, so it sucks to me cause the better fighter in my opinion wont even make it to the next level.


like i said i hope you're wrong trigg but i think you may be spot on in this case.

Wow how unfair would that be to the other guys for anthony to not have to fight one single time yet make it to the finale. Doesn't have injuries to deal with from previous fights...wow...that would suck.

Kinda dumbfounded. I cannot believe Anthony quit after watching his previous supposed opponent do the same thing. I guess he fell prey to feeling invincible...and we all got ripped off too! I think that would've been an awesome fight.

I was really impressed by Davie's actions after he found out he wasn't going to fight...and to hear him say that he really wanted to earn the shot, not just be given a free pass. Kudos to him for his heart and attitude.

BAAAHAHA!!!!! What the hell????
Anthony gets a free pass and then blows it by failing in the exact same way as the guy who gave him the free pass in the first place?! Man, you can't make this shit up.
Honestly, even though I didn't specifically say it, I was thinking all along that the reason this fight wouldn't happen would be because someone once again didn't make weight, and I thought it would be Davey. Not because I doubted him in any way, but because it would be a natural fit for the whole " never has happened before" idea. But somehow, Anthony missing weight is even more poetic. I think Davey was gonna kill him anyway, but this was an interesting change of events.

Ronda going to Dana and doing the whole martyr thing should have seemed honorable, but she somehow made it annoying. I don't know, she just seems to have a talent for that. She's an expert at making good actions and gestures seem over-the-top and unnecessary. Maybe it's all the crying, or maybe it's the overly-dramatic tough-girl speeches. Either way, it's a bad look, IMO.

I agree Trigger. To me she just proves herself a moron once again. And flipping Meisha off when she won the coaches challenge was exactly what Meisha said..."real classy".

What an incredible waste of my time that fuckin episode was! I feel like these guys cheated me out of a full season!

Yeah...reminded me of that whole buildup episode they did years ago where Dana was supposed to fight Tito in a boxing match.

Yeah, that was just a bunch of bullshit too!
Why didn't they just ask if anyone else could make the weight and have a fuckin fight?!

Yeah I didn't understand that decision. When Cody didn't make weight, they pulled Anthony aside and asked him what he wanted to do- fight in a few days against someone else or get a pass onto the next round. Then when Anthony didn't make weight this time, Davey seemed to make it pretty clear that he wanted to fight- that he has already mentally built himself up for it, and that he felt he should have to earn it. But then that's not even an option this time? Da fuq?
I think Dana was just fed up and was like "You go to the finale, then. I just really don't give a shit anymore". lol
I just thought it was interesting to see the difference in character so prominently displayed by all of this. The way Anthony and Davey each handled their respective, identical situations was very telling. Anthony was more than happy to just take the easy road, while Davey was more or less devastated to find out he wasn't fighting, even though he was going to the finale, anyway. I'm not blaming Anthony for taking the pass in his situation, but I do think that- knowing now how things have played out- it was a bit of a peak into his mental make-up.

I just found this and thought it was pretty interesting. This is from Jessamyn Duke's blog:

"So the fact that he had a whole week to prepare really was a luxury, and he had no excuse not to make the weight. He just lost discipline and lost focus during that time, and it cost him the opportunity of a lifetime. It had nothing to do with him not being physically able to cut the weight either. This is why Ronda made the decision to make weight in 24 hours. The editing of the show makes it seem like Dana talked her out of it, but let me tell you what really happened...
Anthony tried to say that it just wasn't possible for him to cut the weight because he had screwed up on his diet. But here's the thing, he could have made it. He left the gym the night before at 144, which is well within a range to make the weight. There is a science to cutting weight and lots of things that we as fighters can do to make it easier on ourselves, but the BIGGEST factor in the weight cut is your mental fortitude...and this is what Ronda wanted to prove.
She jumped on the scale after Anthony missed weight and was 152 pounds. Without any sort of prep (diet, water loading, sodium loading/cutting, etc.) jumped in the sauna and was in there for FIVE hours before it was time to go to the coaches challenge. Yes, Ronda Rousey cut weight in the sauna for five hours, went to a rock climbing challenge, won, and then went BACK to the sauna that night and cut some more.
The next day when it was time for Jessica and Raquel to fight, she was at the gym before anyone else arrived and was back in the sauna cutting weight. When the rest of us arrived she was sitting at 136 pounds in the locker room. I watched her warm up Rakoczy for her fight while on weight and then step on the scale in front of Dana and be 135 pounds. She did this to prove a point.
Cutting weight is mental. You can't use screwing up your diet or your water loading as an excuse. If you miss weight, it's because you mentally broke. The fact that she pulled this off really showed that Ronda is on another level mentally. It was inspiring and motivating to see this happen in front of me. It made me realize that I never have to be afraid of missing weight... you just have to be mentally strong and never give up. 
Unfortunately, Anthony gave up. He gave up, and he robbed Davey of his chance to earn his place in the finale what he wanted."


LOL! So as if Anthony didn't already look enough like a quitter who made excuses, Ronda went out of her way to prove that he's a quitter who made excuses. Man, it just keeps getting worse and worse for this guy! lol

I don't care for Ronda based upon what I've seen this season, but that certainly ups my respect for her a few notches. I do think she's a very good coach, and a very good fighter that is together mentally for the whole fight game. However...she's very immature and a sore loser....although that's not part of the fight perse...it is part of MMA and the UFC as a whole. It's basically the Diaz syndrome...although being a great fighter there's more to it than that...you have to be a good role model and someone that can be looked up to on every level. To me flipping off your opponent, calling her a bitch, making a freaking mockery of yourself and your attitude isn't the best role model on every level.

So that being said I hope (although I doubt it'll happen) that Meisha takes her belt in December.

Well, I guess I can see how that was a standup thing for Ronda to do, but to me it was a tad unnecessary. Don't get me wrong, Anthony quit, and he should definitely feel bad about it, but what was Ronda proving by doing that, that its possible to make weight? Well no shit! People do it all the time! I just didn't really see the point, other than to make Anthony look worse than he already does. To me it almost reminded me of those crazy religious people who whip themselves on the back until they bleed as penance or some shit, like she feels she failed, so she has to inflict suffering on herself because if it.

The fact that she still beat Tate's ass in the rock climb after cutting weight is fuckin incredible. She was leapfrogging to get that win at the end.

She was obviously trying to save face since she busted Tate's woman balls after Cody didn't make weight and said that it was Tate's fault and the coaching staff shouldn't let that happen and blah blah blah...and then her fighter does the same thing. So she had to do something to save face because if it is in fact partially the coaches fault...then by Rondas standards it was partially her fault that Anthony screwed up. So she needed to put herself back in the good graces of...well...whoever...

Yeah I was thinking that too. Once it was obvious that he wasn't gonna make weight, my first thought was "let's see how she handles this", because after the shit she was saying about Miesha as a coach, she was kind of obligated to take the fall. I'm not saying she wouldn't have done the same if she didn't pop off about Miesha when Cody bitched out, but in this case she kind of had no choice.