The Walking Dead

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Let's hear it.

Also, I actually do think Rick was serious when he said "We're going to war", because Herschel said afterwards that everybody is probably scared now, and Rick said something like "I need them to be scared".

On another note in regards to book vs TV;
Why even have the same characters on the show that are in the book? I mean if you are just going to take seemingly endless liberties with the plots and change them completely around in every way imaginable, why not just have completely different characters altogether? Maybe it's some kind of deal the producers have with the author of the books or something, like "You can change the plot, but you gotta keep my characters". I don't know, just a thought.

In the book a woman from Woodbury kills the Governor. During Woodburys attack on the prison Lori is running across the courtyard and someone shoots her in the back and kills her. She was carrying her baby at the time and landed on the baby killing it as well (much different then the show)...lol. One of the women from Woodbury (Lilly who isnt even on the show as far as I know) is so upset that the governor led an attack that killed a baby she shoots him and pushes him into a pack of zombies.

Yeah I hear what you are saying about the differences between the two. There are enough similarities though to keep it interesting. Especially in the beginning of the show and most of their backgrounds seem to be the same. In all honesty as AWESOME as the comic is, it's still a comic and isn't exactly a literary masterpiece so most of the changes made by the show work and make sense. Everything besides andrea and michonne going from two of the coolest characters in the comic to most annoying on the show.

Holy crap! I was just watching one of my favorite movies of all time- Blade 2 -and just made an epic discovery!

Darryl played Scud!!!
How did I not ever realize that before?!


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Wow! No kidding, I think we even saw that movie in the theater, and a few times after and I never made that connection...he was pudgy scud too!

I never noticed until recently that Merle was Henry from Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

Aww crap!

In all honesty, will someone please "minus 1" me for posting that video with that stupid-ass song playing the entire fucking time?
I embeded that video from work, and can't hear the sound on that comp. I thought it was just a simple compilation, not some dipshit excuse to lay out a terrible chick-rock track.


Anyway;

What's funny is that I always recognized Merle from previous works, but not Darrly. The most notable previous Walking Dead appearance for Merle for me was in that corny-but-cool movie "Slither", where he played Grant Grant (no; that's not a misprint; that was his character's real name). But I only saw that movie like twice, which makes me that much more amazed that I didn't recognize Darrly in Blade, which I have literally watched like 100 times.

You'll all be very happy to know that I enjoyed the episode last night. I thought it was a good mix of stuff...got some good zombie action, some good interaction between characters, and what really surprises me is that it was all woodbury and I still enjoyed it.

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Don't lie, you only liked it because Andrea was on the verge of being murdered for almost the entire episode. That's what I liked most about it! LOL

But yeah, this was a really cool episode. The only weird thing for me was that I was able to predict just about every "surprise" before it even happened. That's not to say this episode was predictable or anything, but maybe I'm just learning the little intricacies of the writers or something. My wife was literally getting pissed at me because I kept calling everything out before it happened.
Hooray! It looks like Andrea made it safely to the prison! The Governor got killed by those walkers!
"No, I bet the Governor is gonna jump out of the bushes and grab her."

Wow, I can't believe Tyrese had the balls to burn those zombies!
"No, they didn't show his face, so it probably wasn't him."

Holy crap! The Governor killed Andrea!
No, I bet he's got her chained up in that torture room."

Yeah, she was glaring at me pretty good by the time it was over. LOL


Does anyone else think the Governor actually did get bit, though? He appeared to be really favoring his arm or his side or something when he got back to Woodbury.
Also, when watching the preview for next week's episode, I was a little annoyed to see that Rick is still leaving the door open to flee instead of fight. I really have my hopes up for a good battle royal, so I'm hoping they stick it out.

hmmm...the governor getting bit, I didn't think of that...but that would be pretty cool.

The Governor is annoying me though...he's superman...can come out of anything regardless if he's out of ammo and has a horde after him pinned against a corner....and he is a really good shot even without the use of one eye...I guess he never needed that sill depth perception thing anyhow...

Yeah realistically I should have expected him to be walker food in that abandoned building, but like you said; he always seems to come out of it, so I knew better!

And I'm going to throw out a wild card as the Governor's killer:
Milton.

He seems to be of the "enough is enough" mindset at this point, and has that look in his eye where he would have no problem killing the Governor if given a chance, unlike some other annoying character who need not be mentioned.

hmmm i thought i posted earlier...must have forgotten to hit send....

i enjoyed the ep as well.....and agree about the gove being superman....i dont think he was bitten but its an interesting theroy.....what bothers me isnt the fantastic aim or being able to get out of a sticky situation....no its him popping out of the bushes at the end.....how was he supposed to know exactly where she was going to pop outor wasnt spotted lurking around looking for her...or nobody saw him or heard the motor as he got close.....

im going to revise my gov killer theroy.......milton is a good possibility but im still going with michone....maybe andrea(bout the only thing that could redeem her at this point)
maybe carl, maybe...and morgan as my wild card

...did anybody else notice really wierd cg when andrea was on her way to the prison.....when she got cought up on the tree and stabbed a few walkers in the face....it looked really wierd to me...was like at the last minute you could see her hand and the blood go cgi and then back again....never noticed it befor when walkers were getting the buisness

Oh wow, I really like the Milton theory and I think it's completely plausible considering he went out of his way to grab the gun from Andrea right as she was about to pull the trigger.

This makes me laugh:

Really liked last night's episode...lots of good action, lots of yucko zombie brains...good stuff. Of course superman governor appeared in the room magically where Merle was and overtook him with ease, but I've come to expect that...I guess you need that out of a villian to make the show have lots of action.

I can't wait to see who kills the Governor...I'm with a couple others around here that said either Carl, or Milton.

I was really bummed out to see Merle die. I always like to have a bad "good" guy around. It's like he said, he's the guy who will do the jobs that nobody else will do.

I like how he went out, though. All bad ass going out on his shield type shit, taking as many mofos with him as he can. I really don't think there was any other way it could have ended for him. He didn't belong at the prison; he knew it, and so did everybody else. He couldn't go back to Woodbury, so why not get drunk and raise hell and go out in a blaze of glory? I just wonder how this going to affect Darryl now. Is he gonna go all sheltered and detached like he was in season two, or is he gonna snap and just unleash his inner Darryl-demon? I hope for the latter, because they're gonna need that when they (eventually) go to war with Woodbury.

BTW, my prediction of Merle going back to the Governor still technically held true, though not in the way I expected. Doesn't matter, I'm taking it as a win! I'm batting 1000 so far!!

My wife said the same basic thing about Merle...even though he was kind of evil, she enjoyed having him on the show because it brought some flavor.

I was a bit surprised to see Daryl break down the way he did...brought a lot of humanity into his character.

Merle went out like a man, that fight was fucking awesome, when this show has it's shit together it has great moments like that.

I can't believe the let the season end without the Governor dead. Last night's episode was full of good action, but come on...the superman governor evades yet ANOTHER chance at death? Why didn't the guy in his group shoot him IMMEDIATELY after the Governor gunned down everyone in front of him...stupid scene...stupid. And making the entire ending about this sad sappy death of Andrea...or supposed death I should say, considering then never actually showed Michone offing her....they just shut the door and made a gun shot noise...

Happy with the action, extremely dissapointed with the outcome.

I actually REALLY liked last nights episode. I thought it was great. I have no clue what is going on anymore though, because none of that happened in the book. The book is like 3 real life years ahead of the show and Andrea is still alive and well...lol The people from Woodbury never go to the prison either.

Also, Michonne didnt kill Andrea, she just stayed with Andrea. Andrea killed herself. Andrea had a pretty annoying character ins the show, but I thought they tied it all together rather well. Even though she was annoying and naive throughout the series you finally kind of get what she was about. As naive as it was she had an idealist view that nobody needed to die. She went out well I thought.

I will tell you something though. I thought the scene with Carl and his dad was really powerful. Any time a show or movie can make me actually think about it, I think it is great. I thought Carl killing that kid in the woods was pretty damn cold blooded. Then you hear him explain it to his dad and i thought "oh shit maybe he is right." My wifer and I were debating it afterwards. She was actually on the side of Carl saying he was right and I was saying that it was crossing the line of humanity and was murder. But then she told I had to stop thinking how I would react now and think about living in an apocalyptic world and I think she may be right. Very cool.

I agree about the Carl/Rick scene...and I agree about your reaction. Mine was much the same, I thought it was cold blooded at first...until Carl fully explained it and shut Rick down.

After that I was completely on Carl's side with that decision.

And yeah, I forgot you're right about Andrea killing herself and Michone not doing it. I still didn't care for the fact that they drew it out that way...I thought there was too much time wasted on that scene...maybe it's because I wanted to see the governor dead before the end of the season...I'd rather have seen someone kill him than see Michone crying over Andrea.

Haha, dude I know what you mean. I kept looking at the clock the whole episode (which is the sign of a great show imo. damn time was going too fast...lol). I was thinking the same thing though, everytime something was happening like the andrea scene, I was like "come on already there is only 15 minutes left!" haha.

And Andrea was driving me insane with the pliers too. I was like "talk to milton and try and get the pliers at the same time!!! Stop wasting time he is dying!" She kept stopping what she was doing to talk to him. lol

I don't think they could of killed the gov off yet though. There is no other antagonist to take his place. I mean they pretty much have the prison sealed off so walkers aren't much of a threat anymore. I think they need the gov around until another threat to their existence appears. I wonder where the hell he went though. He tooks off during the day and Rick showed up at Woodbury at night, so he definitely didn't go back there.

Yeah...good point about the governor being the only antagonist. I guess without him there would be no "aggressive" threat unless they left the prison...but what would be the point of leaving the prison if woodbury wasn't threatening?

Another thing that bugged me was how quickly the people from woodbury turned tail when 2 gunmen were shooting at them. Oh well.

Yeah, the episode FLEW by.

samger2 wrote:

Another thing that bugged me was how quickly the people from woodbury turned tail when 2 gunmen were shooting at them. Oh well.

Well that's a good point, but I don't think it was only two people shooting at them. Honestly I don't think they did a very good job depicting what exactly was happening. Probably very difficult with all the action. My wife made a really good point. She said "what were Rick, Daryl and Michone doing the entire time." You see Glenn and Maggie shooting from above and then when the Woodbury people flee you see Rick, Daryl, and Michonne come walking out from ground level saying they were gone. It seemed to me like there were a lot more bulletts lfying then just from Maggie and Glenn, so I dont think it was only them shooting. I think the other 3 were firing from other locations as well, but they didn't do a very good job of showing us that was happening.

You also have to remember that the woodbury people fled because they were scared shit. None of them know anything about fighitng, besides the gov and his two guys. If they had stayed and fought they still may have had a chance, thats why the gov was trying to get them to not run, but they were just a bunch of mothers and kids and shit, so when bulletts starts flying its probably realistic that they shit their pants and ran.

I think you hit the nail on the head with that whole scene..."Honestly I don't think they did a very good job depicting what exactly was happening"...because everything you said after that sentence made perfect sense...and didn't really come together until you said it.